Cait & Katie discuss the special interviews with Ann Crittenden and Emma Johnson, and break down some of the realities about the labor of mothering, parenting with and without a partner, burnout, policy, and what might have to happen in America for things to actually change.
Producers: Katie Wilson + Caitlin Scholl
Editing + Sound Design: Ian Carlsen
Theme song: America! by Bill Callahan
Other Music: This Land is Your Land by Woodie Gurthrie,
S3 Debrief: Ann C & Emma J
recorded by Caitlin Scholl