In this episode: Caitlin and Katie talk messaging, image, and what it feels like to be judged (politically and personally), 24-7. Guest Trey Grayson (former director of the Harvard Institute of Politics) offers hope for progress through paying more attention to policy than politics.
Producers: Katie Wilson + Caitlin Scholl
Editing + Sound Design: Ian Carlsen
Theme song: America! by Bill Callahan
Other Music: This Land is Your Land by Woodie Gurthrie,
S1E4 Part I: Let's Get Wonky
recorded by BRZOWSKI